1 00:00:05,110 --> 00:00:03,429 good afternoon thank you for joining us 2 00:00:07,829 --> 00:00:05,120 for our news conference with members of 3 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:07,839 the expedition 29 and 30 cruise 4 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:10,800 to my left is nasa astronaut dan burbank 5 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:13,120 dan was born in manchester connecticut 6 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:16,160 50 years ago today happy birthday dan he 7 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:18,320 considers yarmouth port massachusetts to 8 00:00:23,429 --> 00:00:21,199 be his home he joined nasa in 1996 and 9 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:23,439 has flown on two prior missions he flew 10 00:00:29,669 --> 00:00:28,000 on sts-106 in 2000 and sts-115 in 2006. 11 00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:29,679 he and his crewmates will launch on a 12 00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:32,399 soyuz spacecraft on september 22nd from 13 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:34,559 kazakhstan for a six-month mission to 14 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:36,559 the international space station 15 00:00:40,470 --> 00:00:38,320 we'll let dan introduce his crew thank 16 00:00:41,830 --> 00:00:40,480 you thanks very much nicole thanks very 17 00:00:43,830 --> 00:00:41,840 much and it's uh it's great to be here 18 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:43,840 with you today 19 00:00:48,389 --> 00:00:46,000 my myself my crewmates we've just kind 20 00:00:50,869 --> 00:00:48,399 of come to the end of a of a pretty long 21 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:50,879 and uh an event-filled two years of 22 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:52,079 training to get ready to fly this 23 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:53,760 mission having having been to the space 24 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,079 station twice on board shuttle missions 25 00:01:00,869 --> 00:00:58,800 uh for me anyways it was enough just to 26 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:00,879 wet my appetite for space flight so the 27 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:02,879 opportunity to spend six months on board 28 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:05,280 station is something i really look 29 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:07,200 forward to and i'm also very much 30 00:01:11,109 --> 00:01:08,960 looking forward to flying with two very 31 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:11,119 good friends of mine um here to the left 32 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:13,600 and two exceptionally talented cosmonaut 33 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:16,479 uh pilot engineers and uh to my left 34 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:18,479 immediately is uh anton nikolayovich 35 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,600 gaplerov 36 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:21,439 he's a colonel in the russian air force 37 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:24,640 uh he and his wife tatiana are both from 38 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:27,920 sevastopol in crimea in ukraine and they 39 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:30,400 have two daughters christina and kara 40 00:01:34,149 --> 00:01:32,560 anton was a licensed pilot before he 41 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:34,159 finished high school which is more than 42 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:36,640 i can say for myself 43 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:38,560 he graduated from kaczynski air force 44 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:40,720 flight school in 1994 as a pilot 45 00:01:44,950 --> 00:01:43,200 engineer with a degree in aeronautical 46 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:44,960 engineering he was a senior instructor 47 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:48,159 pilot he flew the yak 52 the l-29 and 48 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:51,360 mig-29 and he was also an instructor in 49 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,880 general parachute training with hundreds 50 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,479 of jumps to his credit 51 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:56,799 he was selected as a cosmonaut in may of 52 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:59,119 2003 and worked 53 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,560 for a period of about six or eight 54 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:02,399 months here in uh at the johnson space 55 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:04,560 center as the representative for ross 56 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:07,680 cosmos the russian space agency as the 57 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:09,119 director of their operations here in 58 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:10,239 houston 59 00:02:13,910 --> 00:02:12,480 and uh he is the commander of our soyuz 60 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:13,920 and he'll be a flight engineer on board 61 00:02:19,830 --> 00:02:17,040 the iss with me uh he's already trained 62 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:19,840 twice to be a backup 63 00:02:24,470 --> 00:02:22,239 crew member for previous cruise and this 64 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:24,480 is his third training flow and uh very 65 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:25,520 much looking forward to flying with 66 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:26,640 anton 67 00:02:31,830 --> 00:02:29,360 genton's left is anatoly alexeiwicz 68 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:31,840 ivanishin anatoly is a 69 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:33,200 lieutenant colonel in the russian air 70 00:02:38,949 --> 00:02:35,360 force he and his wife svetlana are from 71 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:38,959 irkutsk which is about 2500 miles east 72 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:40,640 of moscow 73 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:42,720 on the shores of lake baikal the world's 74 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:45,360 oldest and deepest lake and in a real 75 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:47,280 beautiful region of wilderness there 76 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,879 they have one son vladislav who's in 77 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:50,400 college studying 78 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:53,120 computer engineering um tulia attended 79 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:55,040 irkutsk polytechnic institute in 80 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:56,720 chernogov higher military aviation 81 00:03:01,990 --> 00:02:59,440 school graduating with honors in 91 and 82 00:03:03,910 --> 00:03:02,000 in 2003 he graduated from moscow state 83 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:03,920 university with degrees in economics 84 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:06,800 statistics and information theory in the 85 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:09,599 air force he flew mig-29 and the su-27 86 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:11,599 he like anton has hundreds of parachute 87 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:12,480 jumps 88 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,080 i have zero 89 00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:16,480 that he was selected with as was anton 90 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:18,879 in 2003 as a cosmonaut 91 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:20,319 and he'll be a flight engineer on board 92 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:21,760 the soyuz that we're launching on and 93 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:23,920 also on board space station and again 94 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:25,440 two two great friends and very much 95 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:28,080 looking forward to flying with them 96 00:03:32,070 --> 00:03:30,000 i could give you a summary maybe if that 97 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:32,080 would be useful just of the the major 98 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:33,840 events we have planned for the 99 00:03:37,910 --> 00:03:35,599 expedition and we can maybe use that as 100 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,920 a as a branching point if folks have 101 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:40,000 some questions 102 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:41,920 i guess if i were to summarize one thing 103 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:44,560 about how our expedition perhaps differs 104 00:03:48,470 --> 00:03:46,640 a little bit from the previous ones is 105 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,480 the emphasis is squarely shifting 106 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,879 towards utilization of research on board 107 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:52,400 the space station as being the primary 108 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:53,439 goal 109 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:55,439 up until now assembly has really been 110 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:57,599 the major focus and 111 00:04:01,350 --> 00:03:59,680 with the uh the recently completed last 112 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:01,360 launch of the shuttle all the major 113 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:02,720 heavy lifting's been done in space 114 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:03,920 station is 115 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:06,080 essentially at an assembly complete 116 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:08,000 phase we do have some 117 00:04:12,149 --> 00:04:10,319 operational and assembly type activities 118 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:12,159 that we plan on board space station but 119 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:15,120 again research is the focus um for the 120 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:16,959 big picture operational events uh like 121 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:18,720 nicole had mentioned we're launching on 122 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:21,519 september 22nd docking on on september 123 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:24,000 24th and uh when we get there we'll be 124 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:27,040 joining mike fossum uh sergey volkov and 125 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:28,639 satoshi furukawa 126 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:29,919 and we'll spend about two months with 127 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:31,600 them and then they will leave and 128 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:33,520 shortly thereafter um at the very 129 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:36,639 beginning of december um we'll there 130 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:38,800 those three will be replaced with uh 131 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:41,280 with three other friends alek kononenko 132 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:43,680 and don pettit and andre kuipers from 133 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:45,520 esa and we'll spend another almost four 134 00:04:50,150 --> 00:04:47,600 months with them and our expedition is 135 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,160 scheduled to last until about the mid of 136 00:04:54,790 --> 00:04:52,960 middle of march when we return 137 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:54,800 and we've got 138 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:56,160 some visiting vehicles that we're very 139 00:05:00,469 --> 00:04:58,880 much uh hoping and looking forward to to 140 00:05:02,629 --> 00:05:00,479 seeing while while we're on board space 141 00:05:04,950 --> 00:05:02,639 station uh one of which at least and 142 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:04,960 hopefully more will be the first of the 143 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:07,440 commercial uh resupply ships that will 144 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:09,759 come to space station and that'll be a 145 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:11,280 busy time leading up to that but 146 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:12,639 something i think we're all looking 147 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:14,080 forward to 148 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:16,720 we have one spacewalk planned and anton 149 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:19,919 can talk to uh to the details on that 150 00:05:23,590 --> 00:05:22,400 and another thing that we have planned 151 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:23,600 that sort of 152 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:25,520 falls in line with some of the assembly 153 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,680 or at least upgrade kinds of events is 154 00:05:31,749 --> 00:05:29,680 we've got a pretty major 155 00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:31,759 planned upgrade of the space station 156 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:32,960 avionics 157 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:35,520 including the computers on board and and 158 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:37,199 the communication system such that we 159 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:39,039 can increase the bandwidth the amount of 160 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:40,479 data that we're able to exchange with 161 00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:42,960 the earth and uh kind of in a nutshell 162 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:44,400 if i were to encapsulate at least the 163 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:46,880 things that we can plan that's uh that's 164 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,199 pretty much our expedition for the six 165 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:51,199 months we'll be there all right 166 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:53,280 did one antoine want to 167 00:05:56,469 --> 00:05:54,639 give me your remarks 168 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:56,479 okay with that we'll open it up for 169 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,759 questions here from the johnson space 170 00:06:01,350 --> 00:06:00,000 center 171 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:01,360 go ahead 172 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:02,560 um hi robert perlman with 173 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:05,280 collectspace.com um you mentioned this 174 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:07,440 transition over to utilization 175 00:06:13,189 --> 00:06:09,680 how is your training differed if at all 176 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:13,199 um to prepare for uh being more of a 177 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:15,520 research crew than an assembly crew 178 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:16,560 right 179 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:19,120 i guess in the big picture not a lot 180 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:21,360 robert we're still we always and all the 181 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:22,880 crews leading up till now have uh 182 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:25,199 trained on the payload so the science 183 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:27,440 end of it's always been an emphasis um 184 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:29,680 there's a lot of the training that we do 185 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:31,759 that prepares us for certain kinds of 186 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:33,840 contingencies that that probably aren't 187 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:35,919 necessarily in the science uh research 188 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:38,400 end of it i think the reality of the way 189 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:40,479 space station research is conducted is a 190 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:42,880 lot of it is conducted remotely by 191 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:45,680 scientists and researchers on the ground 192 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:49,199 we get a chance to participate with that 193 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:50,880 sometimes almost the level of being a 194 00:06:53,189 --> 00:06:52,400 co-investigator 195 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:53,199 but 196 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:57,440 and maybe just being a source of the 197 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:58,800 data as a 198 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:01,039 as a lab rat if you will 199 00:07:04,710 --> 00:07:02,800 but but a lot of that kind of work 200 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:04,720 because the primary responsibilities of 201 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,160 the folks on the ground 202 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:08,800 the details of that we will get chunks 203 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:10,639 of training throughout the 204 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:12,880 two years plus that we train together 205 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,560 and a lot of the things we can actually 206 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:16,560 do real time and learn about those on 207 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:17,680 orbit so 208 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:20,080 so we'd recently we had previously had 209 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:21,440 about a four year training flow it's 210 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:23,199 down to two and a half or less right now 211 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:25,440 which means it's pretty aggressively 212 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:27,919 targeted at all the contingency kinds of 213 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:30,720 things the emergency things the uh 214 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:32,560 eva training robotics training some 215 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:34,639 things which if everything goes well you 216 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:36,080 may not ever do 217 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:37,280 so 218 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:40,319 i don't know if that answers it but 219 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:43,680 um yes thanks and um as you're going to 220 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:46,240 be the uh the first full expedition 221 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:48,479 without the space shuttle so without 222 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:50,960 really a guaranteed down mass capability 223 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:52,879 has there been more constraints put on 224 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:54,879 either your personal items being taken 225 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:57,680 up or or how you do science results in 226 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:00,400 terms of delivering that data or objects 227 00:08:06,950 --> 00:08:05,510 well down mass is a critical capability 228 00:08:09,029 --> 00:08:06,960 that the shuttle has given us for a long 229 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:09,039 long time and so far it's been the only 230 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:11,280 vehicle that can return 231 00:08:15,029 --> 00:08:13,280 the science results if those are in the 232 00:08:17,110 --> 00:08:15,039 form of samples for example the only 233 00:08:19,270 --> 00:08:17,120 only vehicle that could return 234 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:19,280 hardware back to earth so if we want to 235 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:20,879 uh for example with the pump module 236 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:22,319 issue we had on board space station if 237 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:24,479 we want to be able to diagnose it to 238 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:26,000 look at it and see what had happened so 239 00:08:31,510 --> 00:08:27,840 we can learn from it the shuttle was 240 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:31,520 gave us a great opportunity to do that 241 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:34,640 as far as the up mass goes with sts-135 242 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:36,000 and a couple of missions leading up to 243 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,599 it space station is actually in a really 244 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:39,599 good posture right now for logistics and 245 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:40,719 we have 246 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:43,039 more than enough to allow us to 247 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:44,480 basically do all the things we need to 248 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:47,040 do on station for for at least a year so 249 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:49,760 we're in a good situation with regard to 250 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:50,560 that 251 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:52,240 the only planned vehicle in the near 252 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:53,680 term that would give us the capability 253 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:55,360 of returning significant amount of down 254 00:08:59,190 --> 00:08:57,600 mass would be the spacex dragon vehicle 255 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:59,200 we can bring some 256 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:01,120 materials back with us on the soyuz and 257 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:03,680 we've done that for quite a while too 258 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:06,720 what we have done with sts-135 returning 259 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:09,760 is we basically took the huge stockpile 260 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:11,760 of things that needed to come back from 261 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:13,279 station a lot of those biological 262 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:16,080 samples and basically emptied all of our 263 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:17,680 reserves for that and returned them all 264 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:19,200 to the laboratories on the ground to 265 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:20,640 work on 266 00:09:24,230 --> 00:09:22,800 we hope to see spacex in early december 267 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,240 and if we do we hope to get some down 268 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:26,160 mass capability we create capability 269 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:28,320 with that vehicle and uh and again 270 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:29,680 that's a that's a really important 271 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:31,360 capability we'd like to have long term 272 00:09:35,829 --> 00:09:33,279 the things that you can do 273 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:35,839 via telescience that is if you can do 274 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:37,920 analysis on the on the science you're 275 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:40,560 doing and send data down to the ground 276 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:43,279 for them to remotely uh analyze it 277 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:44,720 that's something that the upgrades to 278 00:09:48,310 --> 00:09:47,040 the avionics will help but there's still 279 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:48,320 a lot of things we want to be able to 280 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:54,230 bill harwich cbs with a couple of 281 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:57,120 questions and i'll start with you dan 282 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:58,480 just kind of following on that this is 283 00:10:01,509 --> 00:10:00,000 the first flight in the absence of the 284 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,519 space shuttle and it's kind of sets the 285 00:10:05,110 --> 00:10:03,360 tone for the the next era in the 286 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:05,120 station's evolution 287 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:07,120 um what's your confidence level going 288 00:10:10,389 --> 00:10:08,480 into this you mentioned a minute ago 289 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:10,399 those are the things you could plan and 290 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:11,760 tell us about but things that are 291 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:13,200 unplanned happen and you've lost the 292 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:15,360 ability to carry heavy components up 293 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:17,200 maybe just your confidence in 294 00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:18,720 in continuing station operations in the 295 00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:20,720 absence of shuttle and the spares that 296 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:22,160 are available on board just all that 297 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:23,760 kind of stuff 298 00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:26,160 as far as com my confidence on on space 299 00:10:30,949 --> 00:10:28,399 station being able to continue given the 300 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:30,959 logistics situation we have on board 301 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:33,360 i am really confident about that we have 302 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:35,360 the outside of space station we have put 303 00:10:39,030 --> 00:10:37,519 in every location we could all kinds of 304 00:10:41,350 --> 00:10:39,040 external stores for all the big 305 00:10:43,269 --> 00:10:41,360 equipment that could that we potentially 306 00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:43,279 could foresee having an issue with 307 00:10:47,829 --> 00:10:45,600 um inside space station we have tons and 308 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:47,839 tons of logistics ranging from food and 309 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:50,880 water uh right up to the various um 310 00:10:54,550 --> 00:10:52,959 experiments and science equipment and 311 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:54,560 lots and lots of spares for the things 312 00:11:01,590 --> 00:10:58,320 that are in an inside station as well 313 00:11:03,509 --> 00:11:01,600 in general i would say this 314 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:03,519 the time i think is right i think and i 315 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:05,600 hate to see the shuttle uh be retired 316 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:06,720 frankly as someone who's had the 317 00:11:10,550 --> 00:11:08,720 privilege to fly twice on it 318 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:10,560 um it's a it's a sad thing when we 319 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:12,480 retire any space vehicle you know from 320 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:14,720 at least from an operator's perspective 321 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:16,959 and the space shuttle was exquisitely 322 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:19,040 well designed to do the kinds of things 323 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:21,040 it has done now for decades 324 00:11:26,949 --> 00:11:22,880 and again it was the capability to 325 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:29,750 i think low earth orbit it's probably 326 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:31,440 the right time now to come up with a 327 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:33,680 different kind of capability i think 328 00:11:37,110 --> 00:11:35,440 getting from planet earth the surface of 329 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:37,120 planet earth to low earth orbit now is 330 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:39,920 within the reasonable reach of 331 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:41,519 commercial companies and i really do 332 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:43,040 applaud that it's this is a very 333 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:45,600 exciting time in that respect i think i 334 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,760 think nasa's job it always should be and 335 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:49,440 probably always has been you know at 336 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:51,040 least certainly in the very very early 337 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:52,320 days and 338 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:53,839 you know i think it always should be 339 00:11:57,269 --> 00:11:55,279 doing the hardest the very hardest 340 00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:57,279 things you can do i think it's right for 341 00:12:01,509 --> 00:11:59,360 us to to get in to leave low earth orbit 342 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,519 get into deep space and 343 00:12:05,829 --> 00:12:03,920 and those destinations range as you know 344 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:05,839 from asteroids to the moon to mars 345 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:08,160 there's lots of great places to go and 346 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:10,399 and but all of those things require a 347 00:12:14,629 --> 00:12:12,399 very different we require us to redirect 348 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:14,639 the resources that we've got and so i 349 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:16,079 think it's an appropriate thing for the 350 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:18,720 government to to absorb and shoulder the 351 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:20,800 high risk you know potentially higher 352 00:12:24,790 --> 00:12:22,600 costs of developing heavy launch 353 00:12:27,190 --> 00:12:24,800 capability and 354 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,200 and crew vehicles that are designed to 355 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:29,040 do deep space type missions that's a 356 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:31,440 good thing and for us to contract the 357 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:33,760 services to get to low or to and from 358 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:34,880 low earth orbit i think it's a good 359 00:12:39,190 --> 00:12:37,120 thing now with all that said space 360 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:39,200 flight is still really hard it just is i 361 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:40,880 mean it's it's right at the ragged edge 362 00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:41,760 of what 363 00:12:47,190 --> 00:12:45,519 know about material science and 364 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:47,200 propulsion technology and everything 365 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:48,800 else it's it's just a very tough 366 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:51,279 business and we've seen some some very 367 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:53,760 impressive 368 00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:56,720 innovations and designs on the part of 369 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,560 the the commercial 370 00:13:02,230 --> 00:13:00,880 resupply contractors and we've also seen 371 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:02,240 some good indications that they'll be 372 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:04,320 the capability before you know hopefully 373 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:07,200 too much longer down the road of having 374 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:09,120 of human you know launching capability 375 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:10,480 on commercial vehicles that's a good 376 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:12,240 thing i think 377 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:14,079 space station i don't worry about it 378 00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:15,440 we're covered for the immediate near 379 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:18,160 term and i would love to see things 380 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:20,000 accelerate a pace the more vehicles we 381 00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:22,800 can have that can get us to uh to space 382 00:13:26,790 --> 00:13:24,639 the better it is and the the healthier 383 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:26,800 it will make our space program 384 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:28,800 as an international effort 385 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:30,720 thank you um and one question the same 386 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:33,120 question for anatoly and anton 387 00:13:37,269 --> 00:13:35,519 what are you looking forward to the most 388 00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:37,279 for your first space flight i mean what 389 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:38,880 is it that you're you want to do when 390 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:40,240 you get there and what are you looking 391 00:13:51,590 --> 00:13:49,350 i have not been to space before 392 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:51,600 so i am looking forward to feel 393 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:53,040 something 394 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,880 which which i have never experienced 395 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:56,160 before 396 00:14:00,150 --> 00:13:58,639 uh it would be extremely interesting for 397 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:00,160 me to see 398 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:03,360 a blue planet with my own eyes of course 399 00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:05,440 i have seen it a lot of times 400 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:08,560 as a pictures made by cosmonauts 401 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:09,920 astronauts 402 00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:12,320 satellites but i really believe that 403 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:13,839 when you see it 404 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:16,800 by your own it's something 405 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:22,069 i'm looking forward to 406 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:23,680 meet the current 407 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:26,800 international space station group 408 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,279 it happened that i spent a 409 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:31,680 certain amount of time 410 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:33,920 preparing to the space flight together 411 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:35,680 with satoshi and mike 412 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:38,240 he used to be a backup for democracy 413 00:14:43,189 --> 00:14:40,959 power so i know these guys very well 414 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:43,199 and i'm really looking forward to see 415 00:14:49,030 --> 00:14:46,320 them in in the new conditions for me of 416 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:49,040 course they have already acquainted to 417 00:14:52,949 --> 00:14:51,680 the space environment but it will be new 418 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:52,959 for me 419 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:55,120 and 420 00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:57,440 i'm looking forward for my job on board 421 00:15:02,150 --> 00:14:59,360 the station 422 00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:02,160 i do believe that experiments 423 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:05,519 cosmonauts and australians conduct in 424 00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:09,120 cosmo conducting space 425 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:12,959 helps human beings to to reveal 426 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,959 mysteries of nature 427 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,560 and we 428 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:20,720 are going to do experiments in many 429 00:15:24,829 --> 00:15:21,680 areas 430 00:15:24,839 --> 00:15:29,269 medicine biological 431 00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:33,430 geophysics remote earth sensing 432 00:15:42,069 --> 00:15:39,030 material space material science 433 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:42,079 and i really believe that this work will 434 00:16:26,389 --> 00:15:43,839 help to improve 435 00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:28,550 i would like to say that the iss is a 436 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:30,639 really unique environment and it 437 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:32,480 presents us unique opportunities to 438 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:35,600 experience zero tree loads overloads and 439 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:38,240 unique conditions in which to 440 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:41,279 test and to conduct experiments i 441 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:42,880 believe this is really important and i 442 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:46,639 look forward to doing this in space 443 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:49,440 all right thank you jill 444 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:51,519 jill tolk representing bay area houston 445 00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:53,440 magazine with a couple questions uh 446 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:55,279 first of all for dan i had interviewed 447 00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:56,560 steve bone 448 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,519 recently where he had that unscheduled 449 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,279 sts-133 450 00:17:06,549 --> 00:17:03,199 flight plus the spacewalks and he 451 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,559 described that event as a good model 452 00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,160 moving forward for the international 453 00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:10,240 space station where of course astronauts 454 00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,439 are trained 455 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:12,959 for skills 456 00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:15,360 rather than just tasks for the iss so 457 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,439 could you expand on his comments a bit 458 00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:19,679 yeah that's a that's a great point jill 459 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:22,799 and uh and steve said it well 460 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:24,000 the way we approach training on the 461 00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:25,199 shuttle is very different than the way 462 00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:26,799 we can reasonably approach training on 463 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,799 the space station the shuttle 464 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:31,120 partly because of the the way that it 465 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:33,200 flies in such a dynamic environment and 466 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:34,960 also because the crew is at a much 467 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:35,840 greater 468 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,520 at least percentage of the time involved 469 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,160 directly in controlling the vehicle 470 00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:41,840 we're able and the missions are shorter 471 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,280 probably is another huge thing we're 472 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,360 able to train to what we would we call 473 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,520 in our communities here at task based 474 00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:49,679 level and what that means is you as a 475 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:50,799 crew member 476 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:53,520 are basically trained to know that if 477 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:56,000 this light comes on this tone is in your 478 00:18:01,750 --> 00:17:59,120 ear and this little indication on the on 479 00:18:03,909 --> 00:18:01,760 a panel goes to this configuration that 480 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:03,919 it means such and such has happened and 481 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,440 you know without almost without even 482 00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:07,520 thinking that i need to do these one two 483 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:09,679 three four five steps or whatever and we 484 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:11,200 can do that by training literally 485 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:13,120 hundreds or thousands sometimes you know 486 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:14,559 over the years 487 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:16,240 ascent runs and entry runs in the 488 00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:17,520 simulator 489 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:18,799 and if you're going to train for a 490 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:21,280 two-week mission you can do that 491 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:22,799 on space station you got a million 492 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:24,480 pounds almost of hardware and it's 493 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:27,200 unbelievably expensive and and like i 494 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:28,960 alluded to a little bit earlier the the 495 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:31,280 ground to a much greater degree 496 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,440 is actually directly controlling the 497 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:35,440 systems and uh you know more so than 498 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,160 they do on the shuttle or have um so so 499 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:39,840 maybe 80 of the vehicle is being 500 00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,360 directly controlled by people here in 501 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,600 houston people in moscow people in 502 00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,039 europe japan 503 00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,280 and we are there to facilitate and help 504 00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:50,080 with the things that only crews can do 505 00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:51,840 the space station now that it's up in 506 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,799 space is going to basically continue to 507 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,320 fall if you will around the earth so 508 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:57,760 there's not a lot of things that can 509 00:19:01,750 --> 00:18:59,200 happen that no kidding the crew has to 510 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,760 be able to respond to very very quickly 511 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:03,520 so what we try to do is we try to give 512 00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:05,440 the crew 513 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,039 a toolbox of skills basically teach them 514 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,120 you know basic kinds of things generally 515 00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,960 how such and such a system works what 516 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:15,120 are the the particular things to watch 517 00:19:18,870 --> 00:19:17,120 out for when you're doing this activity 518 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:18,880 and then the idea is that with that 519 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:20,480 skill set they can apply it and 520 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:23,360 basically quickly learn through 521 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:25,520 what we call on orbit training where we 522 00:19:29,669 --> 00:19:28,000 can uplink files uplink we have actually 523 00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:29,679 have simulators for certain activities 524 00:19:33,590 --> 00:19:31,679 we can actually practice in orbit and 525 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:33,600 then learn how to do it and then go out 526 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,760 perhaps next week or the week after and 527 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:37,440 be able to do maybe a very complicated 528 00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:39,679 series of evas or we could 529 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:41,679 repair a piece of hardware that we maybe 530 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:43,600 never saw in pieces on a bench in front 531 00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:45,280 of us but the thing that's hard about 532 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:46,720 that at least on the maintenance end of 533 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:47,679 it i think 534 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:49,840 is that with the shuttle anytime that 535 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:51,200 that something might have happened where 536 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:52,960 the crew had to fix it 537 00:19:56,390 --> 00:19:54,799 you always knew that all you had to do 538 00:19:57,590 --> 00:19:56,400 was stabilize the system and then you 539 00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:57,600 were going to return it to these 540 00:20:01,909 --> 00:19:59,600 brilliant professionals at ksc who had 541 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:01,919 taken care of it all their lives and and 542 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,520 so the crew's job there from a 543 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:05,760 maintenance perspective was jury rig 544 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:07,360 something patch it together like the 545 00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,960 ground tells you and it's going to go to 546 00:20:13,110 --> 00:20:10,640 somebody who's going to make it 547 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:13,120 basically you know pristine in a very 548 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:14,400 very short period of time and space 549 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,000 station we can't do that space station 550 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:18,080 suddenly crews potentially 551 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:19,679 have to do the kinds of repairs that are 552 00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,919 commensurate with what people that have 553 00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:23,280 done it all their lives have done on the 554 00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:24,799 ground so it's a challenge that we're 555 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:27,120 we're facing but but again generally you 556 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,720 have the time to do things you can do it 557 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,799 methodically we can teach ourselves with 558 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,720 the grounds help how to do things and 559 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:35,039 and skills based is really the practical 560 00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:36,799 way to do it and i i think it's we're 561 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,830 thanks for the good words 562 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,039 um 563 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:45,600 a related question for antonin or 564 00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:48,480 anatali whoever would like to take it 565 00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:51,120 we've heard the american side of space 566 00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:52,880 walking but i wanted to get a russian 567 00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:55,120 perspective too because 568 00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:55,919 you know 569 00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:57,919 russians didn't necessarily rely on the 570 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,520 space shuttle but what is the russian 571 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,000 contribution for spacewalking let's say 572 00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:06,240 for the next year or two 573 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:14,710 we are going to perform one way from 574 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:16,960 russian side 575 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:18,880 it's interesting to point out that the 576 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:21,679 number of a coincides with the number 577 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:23,520 for increment when it's going to be 578 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:25,120 conducted 579 00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:28,720 and anton and alec are going to be the 580 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:31,679 operators who will go outside 581 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,480 and 582 00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:34,240 the tasks for 583 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,720 this mission is 584 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:38,000 to install 585 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,600 a 586 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,520 protective shield 587 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:44,640 to the same external surface 588 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,679 and 589 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:48,480 to conduct a couple of experiments 590 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:51,280 and one of them is 591 00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:52,799 windows lowest 592 00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:54,559 the name of the experiment can be 593 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:58,159 translated into english as endurance 594 00:22:02,390 --> 00:21:59,440 it's a 595 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:02,400 brand one brand new one 596 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:03,520 and 597 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:08,710 how space 598 00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:11,360 environment impacts 599 00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:13,679 mechanical properties 600 00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,159 of materials 601 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:18,720 intended for space 602 00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:19,520 and 603 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:24,159 are going to 604 00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:28,080 transfer a unit which consists of 605 00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,559 two trays 606 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,559 to mrm2 607 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,520 and 608 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,919 at the external surface of mrm2 they 609 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:37,600 will install 610 00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:38,880 two trays 611 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,480 each of them consists of 612 00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:44,480 metal samples 613 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,640 and these samples will be exposed to the 614 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:51,520 spacing environment for 615 00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:55,440 a year and for three years 616 00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:58,240 then they will be returned to earth 617 00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,200 and 618 00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:01,760 the novelty of this experiment 619 00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:05,039 the materials will be exposed 620 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,240 under the condition of real space flight 621 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,120 are subject to loads and not subject to 622 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:12,240 loads 623 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,039 and 624 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:15,120 they will they'll be at the same 625 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:16,400 conditions 626 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:19,200 and the modules itself 627 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:22,640 and this experiment becomes especially 628 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:24,000 important 629 00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,360 today 630 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,880 when we see 631 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,080 growth 632 00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,480 in development of 633 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:33,039 space machines 634 00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,960 which 635 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,520 has set a series of tasks 636 00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:39,360 regarding 637 00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:43,039 uh designing and creating 638 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:44,880 new space systems 639 00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:48,640 as well space systems of new generation 640 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:52,080 as well as space material science 641 00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:55,600 and i hope anton can add what i have 642 00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:30,310 which is 643 00:24:30,320 --> 00:25:17,750 um 644 00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:20,870 uh yes i'd like to add to what uh 645 00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,120 anatoly said about the eva i'm going to 646 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,840 perform with oleg we're going to sample 647 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:27,760 the resident 648 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,240 substances that are left on the station 649 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:32,000 on the outside for that we have a 650 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:33,760 special kit we have 651 00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,120 cotton swabs and we'll try and sample 652 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:39,200 those substances and then we'll send the 653 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:40,640 results to the ground 654 00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,440 and 655 00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:43,679 that's why that's how we'll know what 656 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,159 settles on the construction the station 657 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:48,720 outside and that will help determine for 658 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,520 how long the station can be in operation 659 00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:53,600 uh they know what the age of the iss is 660 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:56,400 already 11 years plus 661 00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,200 and 662 00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,440 uh we'll know we'll find out whether the 663 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,080 station can survive uh and be safe till 664 00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,559 2020 and maybe beyond this will be a 665 00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,480 contribution for the heads of the agency 666 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:08,240 to decide where to do the station next 667 00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,240 and how long it can be in operation 668 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:15,830 all right next question hello swain 669 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,000 reporting for the bay area observer 670 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,080 um this question is directed to dan 671 00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,880 burbank as the first mission after the 672 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:25,039 space shuttle's uh programs end what 673 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:26,320 historical significance do you think 674 00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:29,279 this expedition has 675 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:31,120 well apart from that apart from the fact 676 00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,000 that it'll be the first mission 677 00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:36,080 that'll be you know continuously run 678 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,880 without the capability of of the shuttle 679 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,840 to be there 680 00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,960 um 681 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:42,799 i think what it really represents is 682 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,000 this transition from space station uh 683 00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:48,159 being in an assembly mode basically 684 00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:49,120 being 685 00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,960 built as it's flying through the air 686 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,720 space station has been very much that 687 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,640 it's got pieces and parts assembled all 688 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,240 over the world 689 00:27:01,830 --> 00:27:00,240 most of which never actually came into 690 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,840 contact with each other before they did 691 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:03,279 in space 692 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,200 it was a very complicated thing uh just 693 00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,600 incredible and very impressive and very 694 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,600 uplifting that it went as well as it did 695 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,200 and the things that we learned as we 696 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:14,799 assembled it 697 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,720 were are going to be invaluable down the 698 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,480 road the shuttle played a major part in 699 00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,279 that space station's now a very capable 700 00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,600 world-class research facility in orbit a 701 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,080 very unique place and it's something 702 00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,840 that i think is going to enjoy a long 703 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,840 legacy 704 00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,600 as anton mentioned you know we've 705 00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:33,440 already all agreed international 706 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,880 partners that are that are members of 707 00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:35,919 this team 708 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:37,919 that the space station will be operated 709 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,480 out till 2020 and and i hope and i 710 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:42,720 expect it'll be operated quite a bit 711 00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,440 longer than that but um 712 00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,159 but now that assembly is complete it's 713 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:50,480 time to actually get our return on the 714 00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,880 investment and start to concentrate on 715 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,480 the science and research that space 716 00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,720 station was built and intended for so 717 00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,640 we'll have basically six people for the 718 00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:00,399 foreseeable future living and perhaps 719 00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,760 more down the road but for the 720 00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:03,840 foreseeable future living and working 721 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,080 you know on space station with hundreds 722 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:07,440 of people all over the world that are 723 00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:09,919 also attending experiments and operating 724 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:13,279 those 24 7 365 and 725 00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:14,720 and i think we've already seen some of 726 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,760 the benefits of that we're going to 727 00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,480 continue to see more for us all three of 728 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,919 us being coming from pilot and 729 00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:21,679 engineering backgrounds to get an 730 00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:23,840 opportunity to do the science just as 731 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:25,120 tulia had mentioned and anton had 732 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,720 mentioned to get an opportunity to be a 733 00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,120 part of that and to participate in the 734 00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:31,919 science and research aspect is uh is 735 00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:33,919 really neat and uh and i think it's a 736 00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:35,919 credit to our organizations that we've 737 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,799 we've uh we have taken operator trained 738 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:41,120 people and engineers like ourselves and 739 00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,039 given us a broad basis skills that'll 740 00:28:48,070 --> 00:28:44,880 hopefully allow us to contribute in a 741 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,080 good way on it so i guess the history 742 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,159 is that this is the beginning of a new 743 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,760 era without the capability of the 744 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:54,000 shuttle but we've also got a number of 745 00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:55,360 vehicles right around the corner that 746 00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,720 are going to help to to fill that gap 747 00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,640 all right 748 00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,320 okay we're going to switch over to the 749 00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:03,840 kennedy space center where we have two 750 00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:09,830 thanks nicole it's irene klotz with 751 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,919 reuters i have a couple questions for 752 00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,120 dan i think 753 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,200 could you describe in detail the 754 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,760 training that you've had for dragon 755 00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:20,000 operations and if you've had any for 756 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,240 sickness as well and also who's prime 757 00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,960 and who's back up for uh for those 758 00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:27,120 spacecraft operations 759 00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:29,279 um i guess i would uh say just in 760 00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,360 general that uh that the visiting we 761 00:29:33,909 --> 00:29:32,399 already have some experience with 762 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:33,919 visiting vehicles 763 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,120 that have come the way that dragon and 764 00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:39,200 cygnus the orbital sciences vehicle will 765 00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:40,640 come to station 766 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,520 we've had two hope transfer vehicles htv 767 00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,480 1 and htv 2 that already came to station 768 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:48,159 and the way those vehicles work at least 769 00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,840 from the perspective of the operations 770 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,200 that we conduct 771 00:29:55,029 --> 00:29:53,039 leading up to that it'll be essentially 772 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,039 transparent to the crew our operations 773 00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,799 as far as 774 00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:59,039 monitoring the rendezvous monitoring the 775 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,640 vehicles as they come up what we call 776 00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:02,559 the r bar towards the space station 777 00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:06,880 forward uh nader or earth-facing side 778 00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,960 and then how we track and capture them 779 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,159 ultimately with the space station 780 00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:12,559 robotic arm and then uh mate them to 781 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:15,440 node two uh those are essentially the 782 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,039 same the arm geometry may be a little 783 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,360 bit different but but the generic skills 784 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:21,440 that we train in the robotics and in the 785 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,399 visiting vehicle that flows are all the 786 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,880 same um i've been out to uh to the 787 00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,520 spacex uh facility in uh in hawthorne 788 00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,200 california and i've gotten to see the 789 00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:33,120 vehicle and talk to the people out there 790 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,480 and have 791 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:37,200 have seen how the logistics for example 792 00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:39,919 um and uh how we will interact with the 793 00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,159 vehicle as it's coming up how the the 794 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,799 where's what we call a ccp or uh command 795 00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:46,799 control panel that we use to actually 796 00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:49,039 issue commands to the vehicle um as it 797 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,279 flies up the r bar there's a point where 798 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,279 we'll we'll basically command the 799 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:55,600 vehicle into free drift so it'll be 800 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,360 after it's station keeping in a stable 801 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,960 fashion beneath space station will 802 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:01,120 basically tell its motion control system 803 00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,600 to stop firing the jets and then it 804 00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,360 allows us then at that point to bring 805 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,600 the space station robotic arm up and and 806 00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:10,240 then very gently and and uh and 807 00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:12,559 carefully capture it and then we'll 808 00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:14,880 maneuver it to the uh to uh to mate it 809 00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,120 to the node two identical the way we've 810 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:19,360 done it with htv as well 811 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:21,600 that piece is probably the most critical 812 00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,320 uh piece of the operation 813 00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,559 getting a chance to see the vehicle as 814 00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,559 we did in hawthorne getting a chance to 815 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:30,960 see how the the logistics will be stowed 816 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:33,120 on board that's really not so critical 817 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:34,799 but i did get a chance to do that it's 818 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,240 the kind of thing that 819 00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,320 that i guess as jill had asked earlier 820 00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:40,240 it really kind of falls in the category 821 00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:41,039 of 822 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,399 time critical 823 00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,480 we can work and coordinate that with the 824 00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,039 ground and uh but but i think it'll be 825 00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:51,279 very similar to what we've had with the 826 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,640 htv uh vehicles before and the mplms and 827 00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,919 other 828 00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:57,039 modules that 829 00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:58,559 come up to the space station at least 830 00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,799 the docked or mated phase will be the 831 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:01,760 same 832 00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,840 um orbital uh i've 833 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:05,679 i've learned about the cygnus vehicle 834 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,960 and uh trained here at jsc and uh and 835 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,039 basically about to the same level as far 836 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,440 as the operations in the mated phase and 837 00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,600 the robotics we've planned we've done 838 00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:17,519 and i've flown many in the simulator uh 839 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,360 tracking captures with orbital as i have 840 00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,760 dragon and the other vehicles so 841 00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:24,000 um don't know if that's uh the answer 842 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,519 you're looking for but but feel pretty 843 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,600 pretty well that i feel pretty good that 844 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,960 that the training we have so far is 845 00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,960 adequate and uh and that we've got a 846 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:32,720 good set of skills to be able to do 847 00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:38,950 i think that's a very thorough answer um 848 00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,240 who's your backup for those operations 849 00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,399 oh my backup excuse me uh it wasn't 850 00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,919 thorough enough 851 00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:48,240 but uh yeah so so depending on the 852 00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,320 timing of the vehicles i i think right 853 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,240 now we're looking at the dragon vehicle 854 00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:54,880 the dragon demo uh vehicle to come up in 855 00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:56,960 early december that would potentially if 856 00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,679 the dates are stay as planned 857 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:01,519 mean that that vehicle would arrive at 858 00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,080 space station about one week after don 859 00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:06,080 pettit and andre kuipers arrived at 860 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,760 station so that's a very busy time it's 861 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:09,200 a time for them to begin their 862 00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:10,640 adaptation to 863 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,760 to space station and we also do want to 864 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,200 do a little bit of on-orbit training 865 00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:17,200 together for that i think if those were 866 00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:18,799 the dates that hold then i would be 867 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:21,039 prime for the track and capture 868 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,880 don would be assisting me with that and 869 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,720 andre would be as well and andre's 870 00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:27,120 primary uh job would probably be uh 871 00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,720 operating all the birthing mechanism 872 00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,399 though that that part of the operation 873 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,080 but in truth 874 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,840 really all of us on station to a certain 875 00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:35,440 degree are going to be involved in in 876 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,909 thanks and i had one other question 877 00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,600 there's a there's an awful lot of empty 878 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:45,600 parking spaces around here at kennedy 879 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,559 and just was wondering what the uh mood 880 00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:50,080 and what it's been like in the astronaut 881 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,200 office i know i know you're busy 882 00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,960 training with your mission but 883 00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,120 um just what it's been like there with 884 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:57,679 this uh transition after shuttle now 885 00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,080 underway thank you 886 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:02,640 yeah and and again you know when i if i 887 00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,760 think about this from a personal 888 00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,360 standpoint haven't had the 889 00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,360 the privilege and honor to fly on 890 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,520 atlantis actually my two flights before 891 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:12,800 this and to uh to watch atlantis return 892 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,000 home uh and uh to see wheelstop 893 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,800 and to uh to watch the pride and all the 894 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,079 the folks 895 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,320 faces as they watched you know 896 00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,159 celebrated the the closing out of this 897 00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:25,839 wonderful program 898 00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:27,679 there's a part of me that 899 00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:30,560 that felt a lot of sadness at that 900 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,079 but it's a very bittersweet moment 901 00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:34,399 because i really do think that we are 902 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,320 setting the stage right now to be able 903 00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,399 to do even grander things 904 00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:40,159 the thing that i worry about the most is 905 00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:42,720 that the people that are leaving the 906 00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:44,240 space business and the immediate near 907 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,440 term have some crucial kinds of skills 908 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:49,919 things that are very very hard 909 00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:53,520 to come by and if we don't get them back 910 00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,119 into the fold and get them working on 911 00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:57,040 the new vehicles and helping us with the 912 00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,160 next step 913 00:35:02,069 --> 00:34:59,920 then it would be very very difficult for 914 00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:02,079 us to recreate that talent on the fly 915 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:03,119 and 916 00:35:08,870 --> 00:35:06,960 will 917 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:08,880 be aggressive and 918 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:11,680 in our next activities and that we can 919 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,599 return as many of those folks back to 920 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,200 this business as possible and it's 921 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,760 important also beyond just the people 922 00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,520 that have had the opportunity to work on 923 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:22,079 these um spectacular vehicles it's also 924 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,520 really important for us i think as 925 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,040 americans to have 926 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,200 to have space vehicles to be doing this 927 00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,680 business we do not spend a lot of money 928 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,440 on the space program when it comes to 929 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,839 you know dollar per dollar it is a very 930 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:35,760 very small amount when you look at the 931 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,079 u.s federal budget about one half of one 932 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:39,359 percent 933 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:40,320 and 934 00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,320 little bit of an investment we get an 935 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:46,480 awful lot of return we get to have a 936 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:49,760 space station that's manned 24 7 365 and 937 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,880 it is not just a space station it is an 938 00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,359 unbelievably impressive place to see 939 00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:57,200 we have all the deep space probes that 940 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,400 have been doing all the research for 941 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:00,320 nasa for years and years 942 00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,920 we have the aeronautics research that 943 00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:03,359 nasa does and all the other things that 944 00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:05,920 the the half of one percent encompasses 945 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,079 an awful lot of things one smaller piece 946 00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,760 of that is of which is the human 947 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:11,119 spaceflight part 948 00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,640 but what we get out of that is we 949 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:14,720 inspire the next generation you know 950 00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:17,200 people all over the world and and people 951 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:19,520 in our schools here in the united states 952 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,119 see these kinds of things and it gets 953 00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:23,040 them excited about doing this in their 954 00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:24,880 future and i think that's a that's a 955 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,320 really important legacy and maybe it's 956 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:28,160 one of the biggest paybacks that nasa 957 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:29,040 gets 958 00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:30,240 so 959 00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:31,760 on the one hand again it's a little bit 960 00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:33,680 sad on the other uh there's an awful lot 961 00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:36,079 of opportunity right now and uh and i am 962 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,990 um todd halberson of florida today for 963 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:45,599 uh one or 964 00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:48,240 both of the cosmonauts i'm i'm wondering 965 00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:50,880 what your thoughts are on the retirement 966 00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,960 of the space shuttle fleet 967 00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:55,440 at this time in the life of the 968 00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:58,400 international space station and and your 969 00:37:02,950 --> 00:36:59,599 thoughts on 970 00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:02,960 the fact that the partnership will be 971 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:06,960 relying on a single vehicle to get up 972 00:37:10,710 --> 00:37:09,280 and down the station for 973 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:10,720 the 974 00:37:18,960 --> 00:38:16,870 so much 975 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:34,069 uh 976 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,390 i'd like to say that the spatial program 977 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,040 was a huge and a tremendous program that 978 00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,359 made a great impact onto the process of 979 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,119 discovering space 980 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,880 and as a professionals we understand 981 00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:47,280 that the retirement of the space shuttle 982 00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:48,079 was 983 00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,119 uh from my own perspective i'm real 984 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:54,960 disappointed that i would not be able to 985 00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,160 see the shuttle docked to the station 986 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:01,359 but the program is going on however and 987 00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:04,400 new spaceships will replace the old ones 988 00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,720 and i'd like to remind everybody that uh 989 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,200 from the point of talking of the nurse 990 00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:11,359 space station and the shuttle 991 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,400 the uh program of cooperation between 992 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:16,320 russia and nasa began 993 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,200 and then it was carried on by russia 994 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:20,800 nasa and all the other international 995 00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:23,599 partners so the shuttle and the murray 996 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,079 station became the grounding stone in 997 00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,480 the future discovery of space 998 00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:30,720 and in the future 999 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,480 startup of the new 1000 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,560 our present iss international space 1001 00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:36,400 station 1002 00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,680 i knew that 1003 00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,440 sts-135 1004 00:39:44,390 --> 00:39:41,599 launch was planned 1005 00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:44,400 before our arrival to this station 1006 00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,599 but i hoped that because 1007 00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:50,320 we have a practice the shuttle launches 1008 00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:52,960 are quite often shifted to the right 1009 00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,320 i hope that it will happen unfortunately 1010 00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,839 it never happened 1011 00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:58,800 and 1012 00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:01,760 we will not have such an opportunity to 1013 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:04,960 to go inside shuttle on orbit and i'm 1014 00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:07,680 really excited about it 1015 00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,960 but looking forward i think that new 1016 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,680 commercial vehicles 1017 00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:16,800 from orbital and uh 1018 00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,079 orbital 1019 00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:20,480 and sagnas 1020 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,000 will be able to provide station with all 1021 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:26,960 the necessary stuff 1022 00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,950 all right thank you and now we'll be 1023 00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,800 switching over to a couple of questions 1024 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:36,240 via our phone bridge first we have 1025 00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:43,589 hi thanks um a question for dan burbank 1026 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,480 um 1027 00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,480 as has been mentioned before if the 1028 00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,800 timelines stay the same your crewmates 1029 00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:50,319 and you will be present on the 1030 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:52,079 playstation for the test flights of both 1031 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:54,400 spacex and orbital um could you 1032 00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,760 characterize the significance of those 1033 00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:57,359 milestones and also how important they 1034 00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,880 are for the future operations of the 1035 00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:01,119 space station okay i missed the very end 1036 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:03,200 of that uh characterize the significance 1037 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,960 of and i missed that one word 1038 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:08,800 for the future operations of the space 1039 00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,480 station okay yes um 1040 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:14,079 getting logistics of space station is 1041 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:17,760 crucial i mean um and let me just 1042 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:18,800 at the 1043 00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:23,760 leaving low earth orbit and getting to 1044 00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,440 17 500 miles at 400 kilometers uh 1045 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,359 getting to that speed at those altitudes 1046 00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,400 is really hard it takes us about 20 to 1047 00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:34,880 even 25 pounds of 1048 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:37,359 propellant high explosive propellant 1049 00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,920 engines and tanks to hold the propellant 1050 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:41,359 for every useful pound that goes to 1051 00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,119 space station 1052 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,359 so what that means is 1053 00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:48,000 your clothes your food your equipment 1054 00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:50,160 every the air and every breath that you 1055 00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,359 take the water you drink all of that 1056 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:55,760 if we weren't able to 1057 00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:57,760 reuse as much as possible all that would 1058 00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,560 have to be resupplied at great expense 1059 00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,000 there's a lot of work being done on 1060 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:03,920 space station right now to close the 1061 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,319 life support loop to basically you know 1062 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,160 we have a urine processor and a water 1063 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:09,680 processor though the job of those two 1064 00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:12,800 pieces of equipment is to basically take 1065 00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:13,839 um 1066 00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:17,359 take urine from the you know we we drink 1067 00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,760 we uh we metabolize products and we 1068 00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:21,280 generate urine but to take that and 1069 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,119 convert it into ultra pure water and 1070 00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:25,040 then the water we can drink the water we 1071 00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,839 can also split that molecule into oxygen 1072 00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,520 to breathe and we can 1073 00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:31,119 and then the hydrogen we typically would 1074 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,520 pour it overboard we inhale and 1075 00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:35,440 metabolize the oxygen and we generate 1076 00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,920 carbon dioxide and we historically have 1077 00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,599 taken the carbon dioxide and scrubbed it 1078 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,800 out of the atmosphere and thrown it 1079 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:42,160 overboard 1080 00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,040 so all of those two the the hydrogen the 1081 00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,599 oxygen the co2 that we lose overboard 1082 00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:49,599 we're now able to replenish so with the 1083 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:50,960 regenerative 1084 00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,040 environmental control system we have a 1085 00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:55,359 way to basically take the co2 that we 1086 00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,680 breathe now the excess and take some of 1087 00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,440 that hydrogen that otherwise we're 1088 00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,760 getting rid of combine the two and make 1089 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,440 some more water to feed back into the 1090 00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,520 loop and reclaim a whole bunch of mass 1091 00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,920 that otherwise would be lost and 1092 00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,839 it also makes methane and the methane 1093 00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:11,920 you could also use we that actually goes 1094 00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,599 overboard but that's fuel if you were 1095 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,839 doing this technology 1096 00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:18,000 on the moon or more likely on mars for 1097 00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,560 example you would basically recycle all 1098 00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:21,839 of those things and you would make a 1099 00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,200 little bit of methane that would power 1100 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:25,599 your rovers or basically fuel your 1101 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,240 ascent stage for example 1102 00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:29,760 we're we're not perfect at all that 1103 00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:31,040 we're just learning how to do that 1104 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,640 there's a lot of good technology that's 1105 00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:35,200 in that particular 1106 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,280 set of suite of equipment one of which 1107 00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:38,960 is the water purification beds we're 1108 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,359 actually using that same technology in 1109 00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:43,280 third world countries and disaster areas 1110 00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,400 and so forth it has a lot of 1111 00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,640 applicability on planet earth but it 1112 00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,440 solves our problem on space station also 1113 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:50,800 but it's not complete we're not 1114 00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:53,280 completely successful we do lose some so 1115 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,359 no matter what we need to have a 1116 00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:58,160 logistic stream to basically return 1117 00:44:02,550 --> 00:43:59,839 things that we lose to basically 1118 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,560 resupply space station and 1119 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:04,640 and those in that capability which is 1120 00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,920 crucial 1121 00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,599 is being supplied in the future it's 1122 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,119 always been for a long time now with the 1123 00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:11,440 progress russian progress cargo vehicles 1124 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:13,599 with the hdv the hope transfer vehicle 1125 00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,960 that the japanese produce with the 1126 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,560 automated transfer vehicle which the 1127 00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:18,800 europeans produce and now we're 1128 00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:21,119 replacing essentially the shuttles piece 1129 00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:23,200 with these commercial vehicles from the 1130 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:24,800 from the u.s 1131 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:25,760 we're going to get better we're going to 1132 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:28,000 get better at re recycling the materials 1133 00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:30,000 we have on station but that's we're not 1134 00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,520 going to ever close it completely and 1135 00:44:35,910 --> 00:44:32,960 we're always going to need to get spare 1136 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,920 parts up and and that capability is 1137 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,520 crucial and it's capability it's not 1138 00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,680 just crucial for space station i think 1139 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,680 it's crucial for 1140 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,720 america to support a space-based economy 1141 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:46,160 or a piece of our economy that's space 1142 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,760 based in the future that 1143 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,359 includes a space station but other 1144 00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:54,309 our next question is from anita king 1145 00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,829 yes a question for dan 1146 00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,400 was the end of the space station sorry 1147 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,560 the space shuttle program do you think 1148 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,160 the american 1149 00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:10,800 community is thinking that international 1150 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,359 cooperation is now much more of an 1151 00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,160 important feature for international 1152 00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,560 space exploration and how can you 1153 00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:20,960 encourage that understanding especially 1154 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,599 among young people here in this country 1155 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:25,839 and a quick question for anton or 1156 00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,160 anatoly what is it about space 1157 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,560 exploration that seems to be 1158 00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,720 desirable among young people and 1159 00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:34,960 transcends cultures and nationalities if 1160 00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:40,470 okay 1161 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:43,520 i guess the first part there i think 1162 00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,960 i think in general 1163 00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,480 you know one of the difficult things 1164 00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,640 about this is the people that for you 1165 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,160 know a significant portion of the people 1166 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,680 that fly in space right now are not 1167 00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,280 necessarily the people that are 1168 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,760 especially good at talking about it 1169 00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:57,599 we're we're operators we're engineers 1170 00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,839 we're scientists 1171 00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,599 but i think it's a very very important 1172 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,200 thing 1173 00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,200 that we dedicated enough time while 1174 00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,720 we're up there to basically tell the 1175 00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:08,400 story of space exploration i mean it's 1176 00:46:11,510 --> 00:46:09,599 exciting there's there's a there's 1177 00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,520 plenty of people all around the world 1178 00:46:15,910 --> 00:46:13,680 that are lifelong converts and and you 1179 00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,920 don't have to sell the story to them but 1180 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:17,440 but for other folks it's important to 1181 00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:18,720 understand that the things you do on 1182 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,160 space station help life on earth 1183 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,640 for kids it's important to convince them 1184 00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,880 that science technology engineering and 1185 00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:29,440 math are good things to do they're fun 1186 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,200 they're interesting but they are 1187 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,599 investments in our future 1188 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:35,359 so whereas we'll be very busy and 1189 00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:36,480 there'll be a lot of work to do on 1190 00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,520 station 1191 00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,040 i think we'll also have plenty of time 1192 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,880 to do educational kinds of events and 1193 00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:42,880 try to come up with compelling ways to 1194 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:44,800 get that story out 1195 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,680 but 1196 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:47,520 i i guess 1197 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:50,319 i think to me as one of the believers 1198 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,920 you know lifelong believers in this 1199 00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,960 business 1200 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,160 it 1201 00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,640 understand why people wouldn't get all 1202 00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:58,720 fired up about it because 1203 00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:00,800 it's fun it is interesting it's our 1204 00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,040 future i believe passionately that 1205 00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:05,680 humans are going to not just live on 1206 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:08,319 planet earth for the indefinite future 1207 00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:09,760 you know it's our destiny to do these 1208 00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,160 kinds of things it makes us better it up 1209 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,920 it lifts us up 1210 00:48:28,710 --> 00:47:16,000 we need the kinds of frontiers that 1211 00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:30,710 well we all know that 1212 00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,359 this present year has been called the 1213 00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,440 international year of space exploration 1214 00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,680 it all started 50 years ago with the 1215 00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,920 first flight of a human being of yuri 1216 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,119 gagarin 1217 00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,400 and we can all see that the interest for 1218 00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,160 space for space science for space 1219 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,440 exploration is growing as cosmos we make 1220 00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,880 presentations 1221 00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,359 also to children to youth and we can 1222 00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:55,680 hear that their questions that they ask 1223 00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,880 us are not those of children of or of 1224 00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:01,680 ignorant people they do not ask us how 1225 00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,760 we sleep in space or how we eat their 1226 00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:05,760 questions are more of a technical side 1227 00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,720 and probably the reasons for that are 1228 00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,720 maybe science fiction books or science 1229 00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:13,200 fiction movies or stuff like that and 1230 00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:15,599 it's always a pleasure to talk to them 1231 00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,319 we also tell them about how we became 1232 00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:20,720 cosmonauts how we became part of the 1233 00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,119 cosmonaut corps and we said that it's 1234 00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:25,520 not only that it's uh not really 1235 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,880 necessary to be a military power to 1236 00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,800 become a course not you can come to the 1237 00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,640 cosmonaut court from many other fields 1238 00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,599 and many other professions 1239 00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:36,000 on orbit we will take part in 1240 00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:39,040 a conversation with students of 1241 00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:42,160 school students using hem radio 1242 00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:43,760 and we are going to 1243 00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,160 answer the equations there is also 1244 00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,559 ability for us to send 1245 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:51,440 them pictures which they can 1246 00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:55,040 receive using ham radio technologies 1247 00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:56,640 and 1248 00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,240 it's it's of course it's important to 1249 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:03,119 uh to help to understand young people 1250 00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:03,920 uh 1251 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,800 that 1252 00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:07,200 they should work hard because 1253 00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,079 uh 1254 00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:10,880 their success in studies is their ticket 1255 00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:14,079 to the future as well we are going to 1256 00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:18,160 conduct a series of experiments 1257 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:19,280 which 1258 00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:20,800 like 1259 00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:23,440 micro satellites which 1260 00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,520 has been done by 1261 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:27,200 college students 1262 00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:31,200 and our mission is just to 1263 00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,390 all right 1264 00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:38,319 with that we will wrap up our briefing 1265 00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,640 thank you dan anton and anatoly and 1266 00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,040 thank you all for joining us 1267 00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,359 a reminder we will be having live 1268 00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,200 television interviews with dan burbank